Established unquestioned concepts are the real reason for disappointment and stress?
In our society every body is carrying a lot of common concepts with them, these are forming ones word view and ones self image. From there are coming our wishes and goals. From there we built up our security and our self esteem. From there we are motivated and that give us our feeling of existence. This is our *Personality*, that we feel we are. We strive to make this personality bigger, stronger, richer and blow it up as much we can... We are identified with our properties that we have gained and collected: Knowledge, experiences, memories, things, money, family, partners, children, friends, enemies, followers, fans and every thing else that might reflect us. We are constantly looking for confirmation for our properties so that our feeling of existence stay alive. We are reacting all the time and to what ever shows up and so we can agree or disagree, feeling good or being angry and as we are also identified with our reactions, this might be feelings or thoughts, so we are confirmed in our personality. But is this *Personality* something real? Or is it just an illusion we have created ourselves, with the help of this society in that we have grown into and that keeps us busy? Are we living in a fake reality? Are the concepts we are holding the reason why we are not able to relate directly to what is there only through the filter of our concepts that dominate our view? And because our concepts are coming often from people who created them for their own purpose to gain power to strengthen their position, so these are also part of our fake reality? We are not questioning our self because that brings us into an insecure position? Do we all defend that what we believe we are: A self constructed and contained illusion? Is this the real reason why we have so much stress going through life? Because reality doesn't fit always to our concepts how things should be? And then we are disappointed and frustrated, right? Then we are getting out of balance with our self feeling and we are taking or doing things to find back our balance, often damaging our health with these substitutes... We ae not capable to relate objective to what shows up in daily life, we are expecting a certain way that things are and that people behave. Does it work? We are doing our best to change things and people and we are very good to manipulate conditions and people. Does it work? Sometimes yes and sometimes no, mostly not and that causes disappointment and stress, right? So what can we do about it? Can we change the world? Obviously not. What about changing ourselves? That seems to be the solution. About this during the last twenty years there have been developed some new concepts published by best seller writers. These new concepts are so sophisticated that they fulfill the need of any one who has doubts and so one can live these new concepts and can keep oneself busy for the rest of ones life. Right? S@: Your answer is an example how people stuck in their concepts defend themselves, often attacking what might have a changing influence. They don't look nearer and they have no question. Holding tight on their strait jacket. But also looking for occasions to provoke... Void@: Investigating 'meaning' at least is a start, but unfortunately those philosophers and investigators are bound to their human nature and so turn around themselves, finding satisfaction in their work, that mainly is limited to their intellectual capacities, adding to the knowledge pool of concepts. Feeding other minds of personalities. There seems no way out! Who wants to get out? Is there really some body? Rahmona@: My answer to your question is: NO, I don't want to offer a new concept that people can add to their already existing ones. That's why I don't like to talk about it, only when I'm asked and the question seems to be serious. Indeed I have a *working concept* that serves to get out of the illusion of personality and that's what we are living here in a group set up, at least I live it. Most people just want to be confirmed in their established worldview and in their self image and they resist to any thing that does not support their wishes. You ask me from where I got my knowledge. For sure I haven't picked it up by reading books, that would be the easy way. I did it the hard way by living my ideas and bringing them down to the earthen ground. This I have done for more than thirty years and many people have passed this place. First I had called it 'Intentional Community' but then changed it into: 'Group of Friends' because people with the expectation to be confirmed... ...in their beautiful concepts about joy, harmony, peace and love, when living here in a community they were disappointed and always where looking for the fault of this at the outside and then left... In this thirty years I have learned a lot about human nature and practising meditation for more than fifty years I have developed enough intuition to find out about the conditions of personality and also how to overcome these and to go beyond it. Several times in all those years I came to the point to give up, because people are not really interested to grow, nearly without exception they want to strengthen their personality and to live their established concepts. Living together with such people is not creative because they are using others and they don't want to change themselves. People not even ask questions when living with others who live in a different way. Now again I'm at the point to give up, but I'm still trying to find different people, that's why I'm posting here... And you?? destaem nomoa@: You wrote: "Total acceptance that things are as they are and what happens is meant to happen frees us to experience the love and joy that we are without the conditions." That sounds convincing, but isn't this just an other concept one can add to the already more sophisticated spiritual ones, difficult to realize? The 'acceptance' alone doesn't free us and we are not free from our conditions just by accepting the concept of 'acceptance'. We need to free ourselves from our established conditioning, then we will, even without the concept of 'acceptance' be able to accept outside conditions as part of the reality. destaem: "In truth we are already free we were never born and can never die..." BeiYin: In truth we are not free, we are totally bound to our perception & limited to our senses. We depend totally on our established concepts and are not free because of this to relate and respond to reality, not in general and not in daily details. We are here because we have been born and we all will die. destaem: " Words can only point and thoughts and concepts can never be accepted or rejected." BeiYin: Words are expressing, provoke, seeking confirmation of ones own position. Thoughts and concepts are always accepted or rejected, fitting into ones established concepts - or not. In both cases confirming the personality, - in a negative or positive way, keeping oneself busy & giving the feeling of existence. destaem: " We are being breathed $ we are being lived. There is nothing to do & nothing to figure out everything is perfect as it is." BeiYin: We are breathing & living. We do & ask to become One! Destaem: "Where does the "I" who claims ownership of all of this arise? Something witnesses even this and so is even more subtle." If this is coming out of your realization then it is valid for you, although it could be part of your sophisticated concept and you survive with it into such a high sphere that you will not want to come down to the earthen floor to realize it. Typical for the most 'spiritual' concepts. Rahmona@: It rarely happens some one is asking this question: How can I overcome my 'personality'? That's not the actual state of evolution of human kind. The key: As the personality mainly exist out of identification with concepts & all other properties that are gathered, and it's not possible just to drop ones concepts, so there is an easy & non violent way for this: As we know, we relate to what shows up in our daily life from the background of our established concepts. We are looking for confirmation and fulfilment of ourselves through our concepts and this we find when the daily reality fits to it or we are disappointed when it doesn't. We are reacting all the time depending totally on our surrounding. So, we don't need to do anything else than to be aware of our reactions when we encounter situations and as the most important: all the people with their own concepts and self image. We just observe our reactions: Our thoughts, feelings and actions. Without judging, just observing. Only observing ones reactions might not be easy because one is identified with them and mostly only can look at them later. This is a learning process and meditation can help very much with it. You can watch my video at YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rAKMLHjFxQ To meditate has nothing to do with religion, it is simply a way to learn to be more aware and that is the most essential to go beyond our personality! This is a growing and healing process that includes your whole being. It has to do with 'transformation', that means you are not loosing any thing... You don't need to touch your beliefs, only when these show up in your reactions, then you can look at them and decide if they are still valid or you want to drop them in exchange for something real...
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People like you should brainwash yourself and keep it that way.
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Finally, they investigate how language and meaning relate to truth and the world. Philosophers tend to be less concerned with which sentences are actually true, and more with what kinds of meanings can be true or false. A truth-oriented philosopher of language might wonder whether or not a meaningless sentence can be true or false, or whether or not sentences can express propositions about things that do not exist, rather than the way sentences are used.
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You are asking your question in a way that tells that you have the answer. From where you get the answer? You seem to be so secure of it! Is this another 'concept' you want to offer? Indeed there are too many of these ruling this world... Edit: Alright! I agree with you that our 'personality' is a cage in which we are trapped and the dilemma is that we don't want to get out of this cage, like an animal that has been living most of its life in a cage, even if the door is open, it will not take the opportunity to get out. So people cling at their limited personality, even when they are suffering. They defend themselves with all means and that is mainly their established concepts as their property. Personality exist mainly because of ones identification with ones mentally and emotionally property. Now my question: How can I get out of this what at this moment "I AM", my personality? And that's all what I have. I have only my beliefs that I am something more and this is also a concept! Shall I drop also all of my beliefs? Then what is left?
