I think Saudi Arabia is a bad role model for Islam...?
Now I'm not trying to offend ppl, I'm just voicing my opinion I don't consider Saudi Arabia the 'heart' of Islam as a lot of people proclaim it to be, Saudi or not. When we pray we face the Ka'aba in Makkah, not Saudi Arabia and it has always been like that. Just because they happen to govern over Makkah doesn't suddenly make them the official voice of reason and right & wrong in Islam. Same way when the Ottomans (Turks) ruled over Makkah, they were not the centre of Islam. Nor were the Mongolians before them. The Saudis to me don't represent the majority of Muslim interests around the world and are far too aggressively trying to promote Wahabbism views upon every Muslim country, which is not right. Wahabbism is not so much an interpretation of the Quran as it is the tribal, Bedouin lifestyle which the Saudi Royal family have embraced. Little of it has to do with Islam. It's more social norms and cultural traditions of the Gulf Arab nomads than religious tradition. We shouldn't be forced to accept their way of life as right for us, the rest of the Muslim world. Wahhabism makes up a FRACTION of Mabhabs around the world, What about everyone else's interpretations and traditions? A minority in my opinion should not speak for and represent a larger majority. Especially as one as corrupt as the Saudi Royal Family; they preach rejecting foreign (non-Islamic) influences in our lives and avoiding the corruption of vice but then they go and allow America to build 50 oil refineries in SA and invite 1000's of foreign workers over, starving Saudis of jobs while they go and buy themselves $50 million dollar yachts and gold-plated sports cars with all their oil money. No where in the Quran/Hadiths are stonings prescribed for crimes, nor are women supposed to be veiled up to their eyes, or that the Jew or Christian is the enemy of Islam, yet the Saudis have taken the most unIslamic of practices and are now championing them to the world as "Islam". I feel they do not have Muslim's best interests at heart, nor is their intent good & pure. They spend billions a year trying to spread Wahabbism across the world, funding Mosques and Madrassas, publishing all sorts of literature and making sure Wahabbism has a presence in every Muslim country. And feel they are the final word of reason in any arguement over interpretation simply because they control Makkah. To me they should not be perceived as the centre, heart, soul or whatever of Islam nor should their way of life be considered "official" by any standard. If they truly believe Wahabbism is what Allah intended, then they are free to follow it, so long as they don't go shoving it in everyone's face. Having a "special status" is one thing, for Arabia was the birthplace of our Prophet (swt) Does that now entitle them to govern Muslims lives from afar? The believer's heart belongs to his own being and to Allah Not Saudi Arabia. Show me where it says our hearts and souls belong to Arabia? So if the Turks still ruled over Makkah our hearts would belong to them would they? Habibi I don't consider Saudi Arabia a bad role model because they don't grant rights to women They are Munafiqs, they say one thing and do the other That's why they are a bad role model
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you do have a point i think mecca is the heart of islam just do what allah asks you to do let the wahabbi deal with their own troubles
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You are one of the only people in this entire section I've seen that were able to apply logic and critical thinking to their religion, while everyone else followed it blindly. I agree with every one of your points 100% and me and a cousin were having this exact conversation last weekend. Hope you stick around.
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its too long to read but yo dont judge CHI CHI
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Arabian Penninsula (Jazeeratul Arab) has special status in Islam
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Saudia Arabia is considered a bad role model because it does not allow females to do some things. Personally i think Saudia Arabia is amazing Islam4life: I agree with you
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true. they don't let women drive. last time i checked nothing in quran or hadiths says that women can't drive @ftl: How?
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U are 100% Correct !
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No one is perfect, America is a bad role model for democracy, so.... Islam4life, you mean Hajj right? Ok i am with you....
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...And that is just your opinion. Saudi Arabia is where the believers hearts belong. ftl, No the whole country. Forget the rulers, the country the ulama and the people.
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I hope you don't mind me answering. I'm in California the USA. There have been reported many Wahhabi's compounds around the US and some are worried about it. But the thing is, I know this is a bad scenario over there and this is totally wrong that the Arabs are starving the people of jobs and that they are buying 50 million dollar yachts. This is not true religion and undefiled. The Bible tells us what true religion is. It is helping the orphans and widows and/or those who are in need. The true Christians are helping as much as they can. I realize that the Muslims are hearing a great deal of negatives about Christians, but most of this nation is not true Christian. Many claim Christianity but are not following Jesus. WE have to truly follow Jesus. He promises to reject those who are lukewarm. God bless you and keep you. This is just to let you know. (I have read things about Arabia by the way). They have tortured or killed some Filipinos who were working over there just because they believed in Jesus and were caught having church. But that is not right since your law says ex-patriots can have their own church. But when they do they get rudely interrupted and arrested and beaten, even the children.
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u are so right, i am with u 100% i always wanted to go to mecca, so its not saudi arabia people want to go to i also dont understand how our hearts belong to saudi arabia?
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Well.. i know people there who are better than you ò_ó..
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no it isn't
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Our hearts belong to Saudi Arabia? What utter trash and nonsense! Keep thinking that all you like, Allah will reward those whose hearts have been devoted to him in the afterlife, not Saudi Arabia.
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There is no compulsion in Islam. Every Muslim has his/her own belief as far as his/her basic faith dictates, whether one is Sunni, Shiah or Wahabbi. Millions of Muslims have gone to Mecca Or Saudi Arabia at large either for pilgrimage, business or pleasure. The Saudis, in any way, do not prevent non-Wahabbis to come to Mecca to perform the Hajj every year. They welcome everyone in fact. And they spend billions of dollars up till now to improve facilities and infrastructures both in Mecca & Medina just to make their annual pilgrim guests happy and as comfortable as possible. What they practice is none of our business really, unless of course one has ulterior motives. I have nothing against the Saudis.
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i think you should be thanking who you choose that you are free to write this cause i think if someone saw this in KSA you would have to fear for your life. I converted to islam in 2002 and lived in Egypt and Jordan for 4 years. one better than the other for role models but still not as i was lead to believe before my conversion and it makes me sad none of the religions are right. someone told me twenty five years ago their are only two things you need to know about God one their is one and two its not you. I think if more of us came to think that way we would find peace
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Religion matters more than nationalism, so agreed with you.
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As a non-Muslim, I have been trying to defend Muslims against the perception that they are all terrorists. I lived in Morocco for 17 months, and Iraq for 11 months. I also visited Kuwait and Qatar. I was always treated with friendly hospitality. Everybody I came in contact with (other than the terrorists who were shooting at me) were very nice people. Muslims are being subjected to the kind of treatment the Jews received in the early days of the Third Reich. Jews were identified with Communism. Jews were identified with the international bankers. Certainly, many of the early Bolsheviks had Jewish names, and many of the international bankers came from Jewish backgrounds, but they represented a tiny percentage of the Jewish people. This is also the case in the Middle East, where a tiny fraction of the Muslims are involved in radical activity. I like to point out that it is the politicians who start the wars. It is the politicians who promote hatred between different people. Sometimes these politicians are disguised as religious leaders, but their real objective is power.
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a worst role model.they gave their bases to U.S to attack iraq,their laws are not Quranic.they are worst in Disbelief and Gypocrisy 9:91.9:101. Kabba is NOT their Property,It is for all muslims,It's The Property of Allah Allmighty. see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n3KfbdSx...
